Posts by Sea Breeze

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

Sea Breeze

“Their is no excuse for GOD / JEHOVAH not to inform the people of the world what he requires of them”

Didn’t Jesus tell everyone that God requires perfection because he is perfect?

I don’t know how he could have been more clear than that.

Some eastern religions aspire to something similar with numerous do-over reincarnations.

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

Sea Breeze

1 Corinthians 10:8-10 KJV
Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. [9] Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. [10] Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
So Christ was the One who was murmured against (the pre-incarnate Lord Jesus) and it was the Pre-incarnate Lord Jesus who sent the fiery serpents. Thus showing that He is God.

Never made that connection before. Thanks for posting this!

Early Christians knew this as well. I found this from Ambrosiaster 337 AD - 397 AD

"The Jews were putting Christ to the test, because it was he who spoke to Moses. Paul is warning us here not to do the same as they did." Commentary on Paul’s Epistles. [CSEL 81.3:110.]

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Jehovah's Witnesses: A Coercive Organization?

by john.prestor in

so in sociology we divide organizations up into three categories or types, you got utilitarian, voluntary, and coercive.

utilitarian means people join to accomplish some purpose like selling food or making furniture, voluntary means they join up just for fun or to hang out with people like the freemasons or a lot of churches, and coercive means they don't really want to be there but they gotta because someone will punish them if they leave, so labor camps, armies, or prisons.. in a paper i wrote for a class a while back i argued that jehovah's witnesses should be seen as a coercive organization.

yeah, people join up and they do leave, nobody beats you up if you stop attending or preaching, nobody imprisons you, shoots your dog, kills your kids that kind of thing, and nobody makes you join up either.

Sea Breeze

They should be careful what they wish for. The Watchtower is the one being killed off.... one law suit at a time.

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

Sea Breeze

days ofp,

I think that the views of materialists have made it harder to grasp. JW's have pretty much the same view as materialists: We are just a body with some breath and electrical impulses mixed in.

Probably the vast majority of people on earth, past & present believe differently....that there is something that is immaterial, a consciousness... in addition to the body that constitutes "you".

There is only ONE "you" , yet you exist in more than one manifestation according to most. Christianity teaches that although God has three manifestations of himself, he is still just one essence, ONE God, not Three.

Jesus replied, "The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord..."

"Then they asked him, 'Where is your father?' 'You do not know me or my Father,' Jesus replied. 'If you knew me, you would know my Father also'" (John 8:19) "'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'" (John 8:58). "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

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Who is the Saviour?

by JW Answers in

this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

Sea Breeze

It is a little bit silly to assume an infinite, all knowing & omnipresent God and then to imply that he cannot be manifest in the person of Jesus if he wanted to.

If people exist in three parts spirit, soul and body; and if we are created in his image, why can't God have three manifestations of the same essence?

The body of Jesus was from his mother. The Spirit of Jesus was the indivisible essence of God.

This understanding explains why Jesus could claim that "all power" had been given him and another time stated that the father was greater than him.

There are other seeming contradicting statements as well that vanish if Jesus was both man & God. At times he spoke from his human nature and at other times he spoke from is divine nature. There is no contradiction here.

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My mom

by vienne in

i'm annie, rachael's daughter.

mom died yesterday.

i can't find a way to delete her account here.

Sea Breeze

So sorry for your loss.

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Was Russell "that" Faithful and Wise Servant?

by Sea Breeze in

"from this it is clearly seen that the editor and publisher of zion's watch tower disavowed any claim to being individually, in his person, that "faithful and wise servant.

" he never did claim to be such," ("god's kingdom of a thousand years has approached," 1973, p. 346).. or this?.

"thousands of the readers of pastor russell's writings believe that he filled the office of 'that faithful and wise servant,' and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season.

Sea Breeze

Great comments. Thanks!

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Speed Trap

by TerryWalstrom in

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speed trap (1970).

i was driving back from a music gig in austin when i hit one of those sneaky highway speed traps.. back then the speed limit on the interstate was 55 mph.. well--suddenly for a quarter mile--it wasn't.. how do i know that?the patrolman who stopped me was kind enough to inform me...as he bid me follow him...to the local justice of the peace...to pay my $50 fine...or else i'd go to jail.. looking back on that episode in my life--i handled it with less wisdom than i now possess.for one thing, i was a bit insensitive.the justice was older than god's socks.

he may well have been animatronic (you know, like at disneyland).he was deafer than beethoven.. "your honor, there was no reduce speed sign posted along the hi---"he kept interrupting me to ask if i wanted to pay cash or personal check.my remedy was to talk louder.. "your honor, there was...etc".

Sea Breeze

Perhaps you meant 1974?

Thats when Nixon passed the 55mph speed limit.